The cost of all surgeries in Korea are, in fact, about a third of the U.S. South Korean doctors also constantly innovate and experiment with cutting edge technology. I'd like to mention it's now natural of him to pose this way whenever BTS appear. And girl, that facial fat is what will keep you looking youthful in the long run, you better hold onto it for as long as possible, what are you doing omgggg. She did. Obviously you need a good doctor but you can't drastically change one thing on your face to the totally different shape/size/whatever and expect your face to look unclockable, I guess. Check that bnt pic I shared before, you can definitely see her lip line there, if that's the case they might be doing something non permanent or there is enough time between these pics and one I shared for filler to fade^. The mad rush to economic growth and wealth will likely weaken as the economy matures. The surgery quickly caught on. he altered face shape has created a distance between the women and their ethnic background. She has some hope for change in Korean beauty -- but it's not what you might think. The . If you get one bad nose job, then you could potentially look more "fake" than someone who's had multiple procedures. His comments reportedly didn't sit well with his new record label, whose attempts to shut Hwang up were apparently ignored. By industry standards this is the norm. You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. We -- Americans -- might not see plastic surgery on the same level here that we see in Korea. K-pop Idols Who Underwent Plastic Surgery, According to Netizens Netizens claim that aside from his nose and eyes, Kai's sexy lips were also done. Towards the end of her eyes, which you can see in pics, now her double eyelids are very deep, Her top lip used to be smaller than the bottom too from what I see, I think filler for those two both as its so plump now (see next few posts about more information!!). Not saying he doesn't have his moments, but overall as a person I don't find that a personality trait of his. why you said they/she?? of twice have gotten that procedure. [or promoting surgery i guess] this mostly came from some1 on [another forum] saying txt looks plastic [thread about txt vs dream visuals] so i compared predebut to recent and was shocked tbh only did taehyun cause got lazy xD tbh further along his career he goes more predebut photos will realise and more be people will guess if they have or . Kpop fans also shouldn't compare and degrade themselves with comparisons to kpop idols because there are other things peoplecan improve other than physical appearance. He does offer a non-surgical V-line procedure though, injecting Botox into the masseter muscle of the face. However, Shindong isn't afraid to speak his mind, on any topic he caused outrageduring a radio interview when he said women shouldn't be overweight but it was okay for men to be obese. She has kept the same features throughout her debut especially the hump on her nose and her jaw - cheek ratio. The New York native had a hard time. Korean Air now requires male cabin crew to attend -- and to learn how to blush and bronze themselves. CJ2471. This thread is for general discussions of plastic surgery and speculating celebrities in South Korea (or other parts of Asia) which may have had plastic surgery. I know your sacrifices. K-pop group Girls' Generation performing in Seoul (Jo Yong-Hak/Reuters. In Gumi, Kang NaYeon is getting eyelid surgery as a present from her parents when she finishes her school exams. The stress on aesthetics-by-knife is part of a strange cultural mix of the modern and the ancient in South Korea today. Maybe people here will disagree with me, and that's ok, it's a difference in views and morals. Other groups can kind of turn off their fame in this sense whereas BTS can't. Idols are marketed as natural or assumed natural until proven otherwise. Silhouette Plastic Surgery Institute Oct 2005 - Apr 2010 4 years 7 months. "I thought I should bow at a 90 degree angle when I met someone," she recalled during an episode of the South Korean talk show,Happy Together (viaSoompi). "Strangely, we can still recognize the face she had before," one pleasantly surprised fan said (via Koreaboo). What she didn't expect was the fortuneteller calling her out for getting surgery. Also a lot of idols have been getting lip fillers, some of them had thin paper lips and now comeback looking like kylie Jenner, Theyve actually come forward saying it was a really bad photo the people that posted it, these are also her Predebut picture, 844E16A3-950A-4435-9730-EA3553DCAD54.jpeg4AD358F2-5F63-49B3-99C3-79FA02B70B4B.jpeg, And winter only got a nose job, her cheeks are still very full and chubby, and all kpop idols get double eyelid surgery, 67F232A5-3153-4143-95B4-EA0DC95F77B5.jpeg, Sana from twice got cheeksbones done/ facelift / jaw, 17DAC1E4-9904-4999-A07F-8EA8959F903F.jpeg, Nayeon got a nose job and eyes done / jaw, 65B97EFD-B739-4517-95D3-72F481C31319.jpeg, D6D9E4AE-DCEB-4505-B1CE-E93D42B308FE.jpeg, Momo got nose done and cheekbones done too, E1B044B1-7276-487F-87B8-6226BD45E472.jpeg, FCF4EC16-45C7-443E-9386-B93D99AFCBD2.jpeg, Tzuyu got eyes done/ a lot of enhancements and lip fillers she has the same nose though Its a make up trick. They were supported by The National Human Rights Commission of Korea (NHRC), which disputed the airline rule that a "skirt-only policy was to emphasize the company's brand of high-class Korean beauty." This includes double eyelid surgery, breast augmentation, jaw reduction, forehead lift and rhinoplasty procedures etc. "Eyes there were slanty and sleepy." The group's rapper, Soa, admitted that she had to think "long and hard" about the decision, but in the end, none of the girls were reportedly forced to go under the knife. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. "K-pop is a package that's not confined to the music," he said. "So many people have plastic surgeries in Gangnam, but famous doctors are limited. Thread starter 7777777s; Start date Oct 24, 2020; Forums. One member who has definitely had work done is Shindong, who revealed that he was pressured to do so by his management. "It was never mentioned when I did my research at all," she said. This popularity -- and the value placed on the surgery behind the stars -- has meant that South Korea is now synonymous with medical tourism, and has established itself as an epicenter for all sorts of cosmetic surgery. "They don't even put you to sleep, all you have to do is lay down.". "My cousin had her nose and eyes done, my mom had her eyes done, and my aunts had noses and eyes done, all in Korea," she says. "It's a new thing -- it wasn't around 20 years ago.". However, a lot of his followers defended him. It's a complex, risky procedure. Edited once, last by evo-evolution (Apr 4th 2021). "I think if technology gets more advanced, maybe in the future everyone will get surgery, and then everyone will be beautiful!". Kim had full support from her family for these operations. Do you guys see any other differences? ($4800 ~ $7,200). And her styling significantly improved since debut. 16-year-old Chae Jeongwon, a schoolgirl at Gumi High School, has grown up with the understanding that she'll have double eyelid surgery one day. I tried to conceal the alleged overdrawn part and there's no way her lips look like that with no makeup. The good qualities within will always shine regardless of how someone looks or if they fit the beauty standards or not. Joo E from Momoland have said that she had nose surgery, particularly on the bone between her eyes which people were surprised because they actually thought that's her original nose. 750407. Feminist criticisms of body objectification are barely heard, and the racial argument that this surgery is a form of "trying to look white" has faded -- due to the rise of Korean pop music culture. "I perform corrective jaw surgery," he says. Most of the time there is little to no pain associated with passing the threads. Sign up for a new account in our community. "We often get hurt because of our appearance, and as a result, we tend to pay more attention to the way we look." Dr. Kang's gently, gently approach means he doesn't offer V-line surgery. Overdrawn? "It's a present for senior schoolgirls," she wrote, in an essay about Korean surgery. Solo artist Hwang Chi Yeul has been around since 2007, when he dropped his debut album Five Senses, but he didn't gain mainstream recognition until years later when he began working in TV. "There were a frenzy of comments," she said (via AllKpop), explaining that the shape of her nose is the result of a procedure that has changed over time. Rhinoplasty is a surgery designed to change and improve the shape and/or functionality of the nose. You're good to go after a couple of weeks. Here's what some celebs looked like before the plastic surgery. "Surgery gives it a nice strong base, but you see the vase." ", "In Korea, for a woman to be capable, it's not enough just to have a certain skill set " she said. but I feel so sad for the kpop idols younger than 20 . Plastic Surgery Thread #4 Anonymous 02/12/2023 (Sun) 04:01:10 No. "I think if technology gets more advanced, maybe in the future everyone will get surgery, and then everyone will be beautiful! And it's not the only instance he's done this, I've noticed this change in his body language since the end of 2018. Beauty is prized almost everywhere in the world, but in South Korea its value is upfront and open. K-pop culture -- think "Gangnam Style" -- and its look have spread across East Asia and into the Asian community in the United States. They say they didn't do any surgery, but I know they did. Kim recently read about a relatively new cosmetic procedure that is colloquially known as V-line surgery. Ringler frowns, and adjusts the collar of his starched lab coat. 5 1 1 azeenan. What is considered a heavy-duty operation in the maxillofacial dental world is considered a common everyday, operation in Korea, and the altered face shape has created a distance between the women and their ethnic background. Two good points that are missed: 1. - Buccal fat removal (but shes shed a quite bit of weight, I remember her looking alarmingly thin on Itzys Dancing Vlive, and she started out fairly slim), - Chin filler (shes been getting it since debut, methinks), To me, Yeji is one of the most if not THE most beautiful female idol of 4th gen. Basically one of the few newgenidols whose so-called-talentsvisuals doesnt make me go meh. I watch some of his fancams at award shows and just his videos in general, and if there's something I noticed is that in a particular fancam BTS were walking by idols at the 2019 KBS Song Festival and I noticed V would keep his head/chin pointed up till he was close to other idols. which could lead to them thinking they have to reach up to those standards to be considered attractive. ", Dr. David A. Koslovsky, a maxillofacial surgeon at Columbia College of Dental Medicine, performs the V-line operation regularly, though he has a different name for it. He is probably one of the few idols no one would guess had plastic surgery at first glance. In total, you're looking at $7,000 ~ $9,500 of course this can be higher or lower depending upon length of stay and your standards of living. I truly feel bad knowing he's lost his grandparents and close friends to death in just the past5 years. ", He turns to me. What I'm trying to say is, you are 100% right. Sub-vocalist and official face of the nine-member group, Kwanghee, is well-known for openly discussing his plastic surgery, and he isn't afraid to comment on the appearances of other K-pop stars while he's at it. "My eyes are naturally uneven so I wanted to even them out. Once the local anesthesia has taken effect, the threads are passed beneath the skin. The jaws are wired together for six weeks, and it can take six months for the swelling to disappear. she went for that gangnam unnie atheistics, Im not a fan of plastic surgery but people can do it if they want its their choice their body, although I do wish people would be more honest about it instead of saying its all natural when it obviously isnt, Im not trying to bash Lisa, she is beautiful but her nose looks really different, but who knows, it could be ps, it could just be puberty, but its not my business she can do whatever she wants, Chungha had done ps even before joining pd101. After the Korean economic crisis in 1997, competition for jobs led to the surgery boom; people trying to get a leg up in the job market any way they can.". We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. "I got the surgery done when I was a freshman in high school, but I heard people say that I'm a celebrity who was prettier before debut." By using Botox, it hypertrophies, minimizing the look of the jaw. Actually, JooE's nose collapsed because she had the surgery too young and I believe she had it redone because it looks different (better now). ", K-Pop Stars Before And After Plastic Surgery, K-pop stars underwent cosmetic procedures in large numbers, what some celebs looked like before the plastic surgery, open about her plastic surgery experience, almost every kind of surgery that could be done on a face, the face of six-member girl group Momoland, Korean-American singer and rapper Jessica Ho. "I like Girls Generation," said Korean schoolgirl Kim RyeoGyeong. Her research paper, "Medicalization of Racial Features,"focused on how Asian Americans viewed themselves, and how they were influenced by cultural perspectives. Facial contouring is great though and what most idols have got to have a slimmer, oval shaped face. "If I pick my nose, I'm also picking my ear," she joked. Her nose bridge seems significantly higher compared to her produce 101 days. Every Plastic Surgery Thread in a Nutshell, Why do 3rd/4th Gen stans like to go like "who are these old groups they made no impact I don't know them", Tzuyu is one of the most demanded face for plastic surgery in japan. Weigh that through an economic framework, and it's what you're seeing in Korea today. It's easy! she should stay this way if she wants . It also has created an identikit model, a face stamped out of a mold, and a replacement of one's identity with one of conformity. The girls got "almost every kind of surgery that could be done on a face," as well as breast enlargements, according to their manager, Kim Il Woong. For the girls of Gumi, it's driven by videos from the WonderGirls and Girls Generation, girl groups that launched with 17 to 20-year-old singers. I know she had a complex about how big her nose was but Dr.Kim did a great job, since most surgeons would just give her the typical straight tip nose instead of trying to find something that works well with her face and nose as its quite big. ", Dr. Park disagrees. I don't know what happened in this picture and why there are two white marks on her upper lip but this is not overdrawn. Hwasa . I'm not saying there is anything wrong with what they've done! ", Dr. Hyuenong Park, a surgeon at the OZ Cosmetic Clinic in Korea, agrees. Nothing extreme, just working with what she has got." "I always heard that I resembled Kim Hyung Jun senior so he was my inspiration when I went in for surgery," he said. But I'm thinking she might have gotten botox because her masseter muscle looks relatively bigger in that first photo. Ladera Ranch, California, United States Aesthetic Nurse Injector and Laser Specialist . It's Like We're Underwater. "But creating a V-line is so dangerous. Whatever you decide to do, people will always judge you, but they can only bring you down if you let them.". More injections follow. Its honestly hard to fuck up a face like Yejis. Asian rhinoplasty -- a nose job -- is second. Maybe this is supposed to be normal in the entertainment industry, but it really feels bizarre to me to find out that minors were severely encouraged or maybe even forced to get plastic surgery if they ever wanted to see their dream come true. I'm a surgeon, I can't help but view the face that way.". "This is first and foremost a functional procedure for when teeth are misaligned. Her embarrassingly low bows aren't the only thing she wishes she could change about her early days in the industry. This thread contains 219 more posts that have been hidden for guests, please. September 18, 2013 in Celebrity Photos & Videos. Stayc Yoon comes to mind currently for the best example. "During her early debut days Uee is pretty, but the fat on her thighs and stomach could be worked on," said the blog post. "If she likes this, we might do the real thing next time. Jun 15, 2015. The city even has an "Improvement Quarter" where there are reportedly as many as 500 clinics within a square mile offering a variety of procedures at increasingly affordable prices. Lee Jooheon . A big industry ensures they stay that way. This thread is for general discussions of plastic surgery and speculating celebrities in South Korea (or other parts of Asia) which may have had plastic surgery. (Korean) Bahasa Malaysia (Malay) . Most of the surgery is not good imo. "Our job requires us to give joy and entertain a lot of people, it's impossible to do that if you're not pretty," she said during her appearance on XO Quiz (via AllKpop). 14 9 SHINeer. K-pop has created a completely new beauty aesthetic that nods to Caucasian features but doesn't replicate them. "A lot of people ask me if I got plastic surgery after debut," she said (via KpopRants). though? I think not. Official Plastic Surgery Thread Official Plastic Surgery Thread. Now if you were to change multiple features you can ask doctor to balance them around this changed feature, so obviously doctor would make them a matching set instead of having curtains and carpets in different styles. The surgeon slimmed down the tip, tucked in the nostrils, and rotated it upwards, Like every group has had one member who's had surgery that's why I find it so ironic when people call idols natural, the amount of fillers and double eyelid surgery and nose jobs that happens, South Korea isn't called the best country for plastic surgery for nothing, Suzy is natural tho I am pretty sure she got 0 plastic surgery. (Korean) Bahasa Malaysia (Malay) Nederlands (Dutch) Norsk (Norwegian) . Seonghee giggles and hides behind her long bangs. Dr. Kang offers consultations and injectables in the Manhattan office and performs surgery in Queens. Rumors that solo artist Lyn had work done began to stick after she dropped a huge hintduring an appearance on TV talent showImmortal Songs 2in 2012. Ive been enraptured since Dalla Dalla. This surgery is. Professor Hejiin Lee said that many Korean Americans have only been in the U.S. a few generations and still have deep roots to Korean culture. I wouldnt recommend buccal fat removal though since your cheeks start to sag at 30 years old and get premature ageing in the process. K-pop's legendary "Face Genius" rose above the ranks as the top "Face Wannabe Star," as named by plastic surgeons. No surgeon would recommend her getting one either with that face lol. "When we think of it as just the desire to look white, we're not really giving credit to the surgery industry that flourishes by reprinting people's features. ", Ringler, from the Columbia College of Dental Medicine, said he has never had a patient ask for jaw surgery for aesthetic reasons. Like once you hit 30 you pretty much ruined your face because of this trend and would need to get fillers due to the excess sagging. "Older standards of beauty were big body, wide hips, and good to make baby," says Bae Seonghee, a 16-year-old schoolgirl from Gumi, South Korea. Here we can see an equality of inequality emerging; both sexes are placed under similar beauty pressures. None of these operations, however, are as radical as what she wants to do next. "Just a little I got a very minor work done," she confessed. Do your research if you want to know more better solutions for having great teeth and the best results. Singer and rapper JooE is the face of six-member girl group Momoland, which was formed during the 2016 reality survival show,Finding Momoland. It's also extremely painful. She pauses, smiles, and continues, "The ability for young generations of Asian Americans to have this dynamic relationship with Asia is on a much larger scale than it was before; due to the Internet. Pre-debut his jaw was very square. For those who are against PS, the thread is not for you. Content embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent. Korean nose surgery - Rhinoplasty. We'll see Asian American identities merging with Asia proper, but it will be different. Many of the K-pop idols even act as spokespeople for surgical companies. 29,068. Foothill Ranch . This is in direct contrast to the identikit images of contestants in pageants over the last decade, where contestant pageant teams often feature a consulting surgeon on staff. That's really interesting and I definitely agree with the BH being much moredeliberate and strategic than people think. She did rotation cut, nose, and eye.". It's insidious -- not like women who opt for surgery out of empowerment and choice.". This includes double. >>750856 shes never not looked chinese or hwagyo since debut, fillers don't make her look korean she'd need to get longer flatter eyes and a bigger jaw. My mom said to me people will eventually see what's inside your heart before your looks if you placed your worth as a person within your character and skills than your appearance, and I have to agree. : Hearing Restoration Surgery Live-Tweeted. The group's lead vocalist admitted that surgery made her a "much prettier and happier" person during an appearance on Korean talk show Radio Star(via AllKpop), and host Kim Gu Ra agreed. Flower field, that's where I'm at. When K-pop girl group Jewelry disbanded in 2015, lead dancer and vocalist Yewon joined the cast of reality TV showWe Got Married. Millard's reasoning was that creating a more Western look would help Asians assimilate better into an emerging international economy. "You have to be beautiful as well. That's why I had a minor surgery on my eyes, that's it.". "Often times when Asian American women opt to get surgery, people automatically assume it's because they want to look white, but often you find the pressure to engage in these surgeries coming from their own families, from their connections abroad," said Lee, the NYU professor. lig. Hyomin has been open about her plastic surgery experience. Inspired by pop stars and encouraged by culture that equates success with physical beauty, the "self-racism subtext" of buying an ideal Korean face. Joohoney . When she appeared on South Korean TV showRadio Starin 2017, JooE revealed that she went under the knife when she was still a high school student and lied about it during her audition. JooE opened up about her surgery again the following year when she appeared on the variety show, Knowing Bros (viaKoreaboo), telling host Heechul (of Super Junior fame) that part of her ear "went on an adventure" to her nose. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. ", Doron Ringler, chief resident at the maxillofacial oral surgery unit of Columbia College of Dental Medicine, has other ideas. Korean-American singer and rapper Jessica Ho (better known simply as Jessi)had a traumatic experience with plastic surgery early in her K-pop career. ", "Many people will look and say: I know that pretty girl. Wonyoung was english kindergarden in korea with Victoria's name. Also, leaves behind a round mark that almost looks like a dimple if the surgeon didnt do it well or took out too much which Ive seen from other K-pop idols like one of the girls in Purple Kiss. The pressure on beauty may diminish. ", Schoolgirl Kang NaYeon is still unsure about having surgery in Korea. I wonder if that's from weight loss, natural aging, or maybe buccal fat removal. "They have double eyelid and a small face; a round forehead -- from an implant. So Ill say she looks hot and nothing Uncanny-Valley-like. Korean plastic surgery is amazing (pics) dam Today, 07:53 PM #2. He's had a bad nose job, maybe had his eye corners cut, and gets fillers. Seoul has become the unofficial plastic surgery capital of the world, with as many as one in three South Korean women thought to have gone under the knife, according to The New Yorker. Dont post things just cause. "It boils down to physical traits being connected to negative characteristics," she said. OneHallyu 2022. These surgeries are so common that patients rarely take more than a day or two off to recover. it's a difference in views and morals. She confirmed that she feels "regret" over her double eyelid surgery when she appeared on Happy Together, but she's only got good things to say about her breast implants. View Profile View Forum Posts Deathcon 3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 11,360 Clinics in Korea offer the V-line operation to medical tourists and say they only need "stay a week" to see the procedure out. Her nose turns crimson as the syringe enters it, and Dr. Kang taps the top of the bridge. It involves breaking and shaving the jawline to create a V-shaped face. If you inspect some Caucasian celebrities, you find many examples of prominent jaws and high cheekbones. I honestly can't think of any other groups that are still such a hot topic when they aren't promoting a song or have a comeback. One overlooks Central Park, with baroque style fireplaces and a marbled floor. You have no idea what you are saying lol. Hypothetically, if you have one procedure that'soverdone (or poorly done), you can look more fake at first glance than someone else with more enhancements thanyou have, provided that their procedures aren't poorly done. South Korean employers scrutinize the looks of the applicants -- in search for physical attractiveness -- in addition to their professional qualifications. * :. "Because we are celebrities, it is impossible for us not to consistently monitor ourselves," Narsha said. A fashion student at NYU, Lee wants a more feminine face. Out of the seven girls I spoke with, only one had even been to the capital. "There are certain economic situations happening in Korea and America that might impel different choices. I feel bad for clogging up the thread with these posts when they're kind of irrelevant to plastic surgery lmao. The most common procedure is double eyelid surgery, which creates a more Western-looking eye. Dr. David Nguyen specializes in Plastic Surgery of the Breast, Body, and Face, including Breast Augmentation, Breast Lift (Mastopexy), Tummy Tucks, Liposuction, Mommy Makeovers, and Facelifts. Edited 3 times, last by evo-evolution (Apr 4th 2021). The singer was asked about her comments (and the aftermath of them) on Radio Star, revealing that she accidentally caused a media storm. Thread: Korean plastic surgery is amazing (pics) dam. Many estimated men make up 20 percent of their patients while Yong Joon Noh, a plastic surgeon at Banobagi that focuses on eyes and noses, says its between 30 and 40. Most minor facial PS (which 99% of the work in Kpop) has a fairly quick turnaround time. Miss 1960's face is full, her nose is flat, and her eyes are small. His other is in Flushing, Queens, a predominantly Asian area. Remember, when you move the jaw backwards you make the airwaves smaller. She wrote that the "alteration of Asian American women of facial features is less of a transforming process, and more of a normalizing one, "to allow them to fit in with their Western peers. Jaw shaves are psychotic. Established in 2018. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. "People will notice it anyway, so we wanted to be open about this reality where many women want to look pretty." Millard was chief plastic surgeon for the United States Marine Corps. I think the dr made the right choice because dear God she looks so natural. Younger idols like Chungha and Lisa worry me because they are already so gorgeous yet they seem to get more work done with a further altered faceeach comeback.