Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Movinman, Oct 12, 2012. design, more tamed down. Midway through the 1967 model year, the 427 was swapped out for a newer 428 Cobra Jet engine equipped with a Holley four-barrel carburetor. Nico has put together an impressive list of tomato varieties for 2021. It was a leaner mill with a skirtless block like the 289/302/351ci small-block. working around the clock on refining the experience with the new app parts Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change If a stroker is more to your liking, the M-6009-B514 promises more torque thanks to TRW forged-aluminum pistons in a .030-inch overbore, heavy-duty connecting rods with ARP bolts, and a nodular-iron stroker crankshaft. If you need to email me, Jesse, about something (not hood ornaments) that isn't relevant to the comment section, e, Now my 10 years BEST OF is on a facebook page. horsepower was used. 500s built in 1967. Ford would sell just 1,299 examples of the 428 Cobra Jet in 1968 including both manual and automatic variants. While the Ford engineers were taking the KR-8 engine apart, we were putting the 427 in the Mustang. ), Transistor ignition option: single point mechanical advance. Canted-valve cylinder heads forming a slightly hemi-spherical combustion The official Ford Mustang 428 Cobra Jet was fitted with the police interceptor V8, though in a slightly different form than theTasca Ford version. C Hello shop. Shop-go ahead. During the PAS testing at the Arizona Proving Ground (APG) in July, 1967, we achieved vehicle performance levels previously unseen in any other production-level car. "He had made some exhaust modifications and put an aluminum intake on the 390. ", Tasca Jr. also remembers the trip home with the freshly installed 427: "Somewhere in Canada, just outside of Detroit, it started skipping because it broke a rocker arm. The BlockWe're going to assume you're on a budget with a standard vanilla 429 or 460 engine. 1967 - The "R" & "W" engine was used in the Comet, Fairlane, Galaxies, Mercury, Shelby Cobra & the Shelby Mustang GT 500. Valve events are 0.489/0.498 inch (intake/exhaust) lift and 270/286 degrees advertised duration. Varieties for 2021 Shop wisely and consult with the cam manufacturer. It can be a 429 or a 460 depending on which crankshaft is used. 1968 428 Cobra Jet Drag Strip Modifications, 428 CJ Mustangs at the 1968 NHRA Winternationals, Comparison of Major 428 Engine Components, Classic Mustang Warranty Plate/Certification Label Decoder, 0 - 4 seconds standing start acceleration, 0 - 10 seconds standing start acceleration. The engine was dealer installed. But some are still out there!!! was first offered, the 460 was rated at 360 horse power with 10.5:1 compression. A modified automatic C6 transmission was bolted to the back of the block, and the completed vehicle could do consistent 13 second ETs at 105 mph. Used across many Ford and Mercury car lines, the 428 CJ was a less expensive replacement to the 427-cu.in. He also grabbed an experimental transmission and a special rear axle. Like the Chevy L-88 was 5 hp less than the trip set up Corvettes, because they lied their ass off to keep people from buying the L-88 who didn't know what they were getting into. But he didn't shift it. 460. Beyond The Boss '9On the heels of the Boss 429 were the 429 Cobra Jet and Super Cobra Jet. So does the four-bolt main 429 Cobra Jet block. The -inch main cap bolts torque to 100 lb-ft. A Crane flat tappet hydraulic cam (PN 34-C6OZ-B) was chosen for smooth street operation and low maintenance. capabilities. Aftermarket cylinder heads are also available when stock castings just don't meet expectations. Whether youre growing them in your backyard or buying them from the store, tomatoes can be a great addition to any meal. While there I worked on the current production 1966 390 GT Fairlane - Comet and the 1967 Mustang - Cougar - Fairlane - Comet program. 1968 - The "W" engine was offered as an option in sales literature for Comet, Fairlane, Galaxies, Mercury, Cougar, Mustang & the Shelby Mustang GT 500. Engine, the Tennessee Valley Railroad in Chattanooga. The 428 was a ten year old FE These components will directly affect the engine's personality. Shelby's team reached into the 427 parts bin, dropped the '63 low-riser dual-quad setup atop the 428 Police Interceptor, and made their new Mustang a superstar. In this case, the ideal pin length is 1.400 inches. Ford engine designers first embraced deep-skirt crankcase architecture with the Y-block engine family of 1954, when weight wasn't a primary concern. It's enough to provide plenty of tomatoes to keep the whole neighborhood supplied! If you wanted a big block engine in 1968 you could choose a 427, 428 or the Hmm it suddenly occurs to me that a lot of the Daisuke Kudou makes amazing models (Thanks Mario! In reply to CO-OP GAS: 1942: The moment of truth came when the restored G.T. The 428 Cobra Jet, introduced April 1968, Billy Gilbert persisted in modifying and tuning the engine and the chassis to make Bobby's Mustang outperform Chevy and Mopar products in and around Providence. By 1974 the emissions crap that was added to the engine killed the power. on Vimeo. Our thanks to Ben Coles for alerting us to the story of the KR-8 and to Drew Hardin for tracking down Eric Dahlquist's Hot Rod photos and notes in the Petersen Publishing archives. at 200 HP. The 428 Cobra Jet and Super Cobra Jet have thicker main caps than the normal 428 has, according to The Ford V-8 engine Workshop: 428 Cobra Jet. or turmo [image: fiat turbina prototipo]Desde el turbocompresor hasta la inyeccin During the occupation of France in the Second World War, cycling was still We suggest a PowerMax kit with compatible springs, lifters, and retainers. The Ford dual-point distributor was converted to breakerless status with a PerTronix Ignitor kit (PN 1284) to eliminate point wear concerns. 75 yr old woman keyed dozens of cars on her street Raymond Loewy. A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. The top performance motor was the 427. Billy was working on it one day, but I don't remember what he was doing. Tool chest? This gives all new meaning to the phrase Stop resisting. popular, in fact even more so given that fuel for cars was difficult to After that date Ford offered one crankshaft for 428 CJ. Mustang that was owned by Bob Tasca Sr. and shoehorned a police interceptor 428 short-block V8 under the hood. The units were provided to the Dearborn Vehicle Assembly Plant (DAP) for the 50 white Mustangs (some of which were "lightweights" with no seam sealer and no sound deadener) built in December 1967. the cost is going to surpass $2,500 and I a wondering if it is worth it. As old as it is, all the valves, springs, retainers, locks, shafts, rockers, etc, should be replaced with at minimum, OEM quality (readily available through "normal" engine parts sources). Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. The 428 was the same Cobra Jet engine offered in the stock big block Mustang. What's more, it can be stroked to more than 550ci. A fresh Melling M-57 oil pump and Melling 57-S2 pickup will circulate the oil. CJ versions (360 hp) were fitted with a Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel carburetor (spread-bore design) atop a cast-iron intake manifold (D0OE-C). it is pretty much what this website is all about. Other members of the family are also involved today with the dealership. "385" series. "In those days, we were king of Ford racing," Tasca Jr. says. In Tennessee there is typically one location hosting Thomas the Tank The Android Auto Coolwalk rollout continues, but in the meantime, Google is The 428 Police Interceptor engine was topped with a pair of Holley 600 CFM carburetors, a mid-rise aluminum intake, and were available with either a four-speed manual or a three-speed automatic. Ford Racing Technology's "Cobra Jet" aluminum head (M-6049-B429) for 429/460ci big-blocks sports huge 2.200-inch intake and 1.760-inch exhaust valves with 72cc chambers. But the one that really gets hardcore straight-liners buzzing is the '67 G.T. 500 uses Police Interceptor 428 rods with strong 13/32 rod bolts that torque to 55 lb-ft. How To Build A Big-BlockWe've just covered the basics of the super-simple 385-series big-block family. Can't say, but I recall seeing a pic once. The post What Is a Notchback Mustang? low-end punch. 's Steve Chmura bored the cylinders 0.040 over to correct for wear and taper. "I flycut the pistons right in the block," Gilbert said. But what happened to the original '67 KR-8 hardtop? Powered by Gasoline and Caffeine. You may have seen them at county fairs the vertical velodromes were originally built from old grain silos, leading to the name "silo-drome.". The housing is only about 4 1/2" long. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. How did it become such an important player in the development of the 428 Cobra Jet, an engine that saved Ford's reputation as a Total Performance company? larger ports and valves. "Some people from Ford came out to drive the car and they convinced my father to take it to Detroit to prove to the big-shots out there that he could build a better performance car than Ford. The sale of this 1967 Ford Mustang 428 Cobra . Nearly simultaneously, Mr. Tasca successfully lobbied the management at Ford to install the 428 in Mustang - Cougar - Fairlane - Comet for the upcoming model year program. I just learned that Plomb made tools for Firestone. equ [image: 6 months after oil change - somehow stayed exactly in place for of CP You can do almost anything on two wheels. The post The Vintagent Classics: Fast Company first appeared on The Estler's Mortgage Lifter tomato is one of the most popular heirloom varieties that is perfect for home gardeners. So we took the pushrod out and drove all the way home on seven cylinders.". Developed by William Estler in the 1940s, this tomato is known for its large size, sweet flavor, and disease resistance. Starting in the fall of 1962 I was the Dynamometer Development/Test Engineer for the 1963 Indianapolis pushrod engine and then one of the five engineers in the Indy Engine Group for the 1964 DOHC engine. 1963 - The 427 was first offered February 1963. Although it is beneficial to crankcase rigidity and oil pan gasket sealing, and it is compatible with cross-bolted main caps, the extra material bumps the weight of the bare block to 180 pounds. . Below is what one of my books says. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The assembled engine dimensions are 32 inches long by 27 inches wide by 29 inches high. occurred in the middle of the production year so some early Cobra Jet cars had I matriculated into the Engine Cooling Section (3 months) and then into the "FE" (390 - 410 - 428) Engine Section in September, 1965. There is also a later "D1VE" two-bolt main block casting that's easier to identify. The 460 motor is a 429 with longer stroke, same bore. Complement your work with a high-volume oil pump because high-performance engines need lots of lubrication. Salute of the day to the mounted police horse. However the way horse power was stated changed during this time. pub Last night after work I jumped right into one of my favorite activities: The cross-bolted main bearing caps and oiling improvements were missing. The car, dubbed the KR-8 for "King of the Road '68," was blazing fast, so Tasca used his clout as one of the top-selling Ford dealers in the country to pressure Ford into considering a production version to compete with faster GTOs and Camaros. The real cobra jet block had reinforced webbing as well as a higher nickel content, i.e. The 428 (4.13" bore x 3.98" stroke) is a low rpm torque motor for the street. 500KR and the 1969-70 G.T. Bob Tasca Jr. knows all too well. As old as it is, all the valves, springs, retainers, locks, shafts, rockers, etc, should be replaced with at minimum, OEM quality (readily available through "normal" engine parts sources). The 1968 428 CJ PAS (Production Acceptance Standards) program test car was a red 1967 Mustang notchback coupe. In NASCAR trim, the Boss '9 had hemispherical-chambered aluminum heads and a nasty attitude, belting out boatloads of high-end torque for the NASCAR superspeedway. Enjoy. After some break-in miles, we'd . in his own words For a healthy street attitude, you're going to want a camshaft with a smooth idle yielding good low- and mid-range torque. In late 1966 Mr. Tasca and Service Manager Billy Gilbert (both with whom I became close friends) installed a production 428-4V Police Interceptor engine in Bobby Tasca's1967 Mustang. custom built engine is difficult to sell. JavaScript is disabled. When it comes to choosing a camshaft, it's a tricky science best left to professionals who can advise you properly, which is why you should consult Performance Automotive Warehouse (PAW) for your Crane PowerMax cam kit. The only other difference was the air cleaner which had some air valves that opened up at low vacuum to reduce inlet restriction. The aluminum heads used in the Boss This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. Take a magnet, see if it sticks to the intake. Holley's carburetor rebuild shop refreshed the twin vacuum-secondary, 600-cfm, 4160-series carbs to like-new appearance and function. "All those 'ballots' went to Henry Ford II," says Dahlquist. The differences for the SCJ were: 1) The beefer 427 "LeMans" connecting rods. Bentley T by Pininfarina. Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! was a high torque, quiet, In stock trim, they make a sweet sound with their throaty exhausts and solid-lifter clatter. The 428 Cobra Jet was designed for mass production and simply did not have the capabilities to be used in racing due to the . In a 3,650-pound Mustang, tire smoking fun is guaranteed. at the best online prices at eBay! Crane Cams' PowerMax series camshafts stretch the street/hydraulic envelope with great results. I was thinking to myself, 'When is he going to shift?' 212 HP. The longer stroke (3.98 vs. 3.78 for the 427) gave the engine powerful 500 KRs and all '69 and '70 G.T. Union issues statement defending firefighters. The thin We got it back to the dealership and my father was very upset when he found out we'd blown up his favorite car.". ", Duly impressed, the Ford engineers wanted to pull the powertrain for inspection. They suggest removing any unnecessary casting in the intake and exhaust ports. The listed weight is the maximum for a complete 4V engine. Don't forget to position the oil slinger plate before the front cover goes on. Shortly after getting the car back to Rhode Island, Eric Dahlquist from Hot Rod magazine stopped at Tasca Ford. It was offered with the C6 automatic or the 4-speed manual transmission, with three differential ratios on offer, uprated front shock towers, front disc brakes, a functional hood scoop and a "C . examples of the photographic process that most of the people reading this He bought the numbers-matching Shelby (number 67400F5U00666) back in 1982 after spotting it parked outside a mom-and-pop gas station. These are a few ways you can tell. In December 1966 and January 1967 the FE EngineSection was split into two groups, one for Custom Series cars (Ford - Mercury - Lincoln) and one for Light Car products (Mustang - Cougar - Torino - Montego) and I became the designated leader (Principal Engineer) of the latter group. in the wor [image: Calling all Drivers ! ", When Ford engineers insisted on keeping the KR-8 powertrain for further inspection, Tasca Sr. told them he needed something to replace it for the drive home. A ring compressor eases installation. 500. A "CX" means an industrial 428. The initial 428 CJ production engines were built at the Dearborn Engine Plant (DEP) at the Rouge early in December 1967. Sealed Power forged aluminum 10.5:1 pistons (PN L2303NF-040) replace the original cast units and weigh 840.3 grams with pins. You guessed itno oil galleries for hydraulics. in. the Work has begun on the final phase of Nevadas largest interchange project. Terms of Service. Images: Peter Singhof 2019 Courtesy of RM Sothebys. "I was indirectly tipped off by a couple of engineers at Ford that if I was going East for my summer vacation, a stop at Tasca might prove interesting." great stuff! . Compared to Shelby's 355/462 claim, the extra 22 hp was likely caused by the slightly hotter cam and lack of fan/alternator drag. In April 1968, Ford introduced the Cobra Jet, built from a 428 Police Interceptor short block with 427 "low riser" heads, among other heavier-duty performance partssimilar to what Holman Moody had invented. . The 428 Cobra Jet, introduced April 1968, was a high torque, quiet, inexpensively built engine. Today theyre highly prized by collectors and enthusiasts, particularly in all-original condition with their original engine still in place. Award-Winning Sun Sugar Cherry Tomatoes: Reliable and Resilient, Perfect for Organic Gardening! It seems it attracted too much attention from the wrong kind of folks in the late-night hours. 428 vs 427. the 427 is a large bore short stroke motor (4.23" bore x 3.78" stroke) made to produce horsepower at high rpms. Too short and it won't engage the eccentric, which could lead to an immobilized fuel pump. And it had cylinder heads a lot like the 351C small-block designed to flow huge quantities of air and fuel. Articles that Ben has written have been covered onCNN, Popular Mechanics, Smithsonian Magazine,Road & Track Magazine,the official Pinterest blog, theofficialeBay Motorsblog, BuzzFeed, Autoweek Magazine, Wired Magazine, Autoblog, Gear Patrol, Jalopnik, The Verge, and many more. (#195702722678) o***b (1566) - Feedback left by . This 1974 Ferrari Dino 246 GTS was completed on April 30, 1974, and was Continue reading *Ford shoots down latest rumor of a Fi Cars.com, one of the auto industry's largest online shopping sites, is Shelby would cash in with the upgraded '681/2 GT500KR, which took its name from Tasca's original King of the Road KR-8. The engine was delivered to Donald Wood and his team at R.A.D. First you have to start with the 428 v.s. ]Transappenninica is an international However, it's apparent that Tasca technicians applied their own tricks, like tweaking the distributor, advancing the cam three degrees, and installing 427 rocker arms for more lift. On April 1, the 428 Cobra Jet was introduced to the world as a new 335hp performance option for the Mustang and Fairlane. watches. The X-100 is easily Fords most important concept carand it was distinctly I'll list the cars and engines if it helps. The flat-wound internal dampers help prevent surge, a condition where vertical energy waves interfere with spring function to cause premature valve float. pedestals, One long and one short rocker arm per cylinder, Bigger heads with larger ports and valves, Screw-in rocker studs in the early 70 models, Compression was increased from 10.5:1 to 11.3:1, Cast iron crank shaft with higher nodularity than the base 429, Mechanical camshaft with adjustable rocker arms. The heads and intake were unique to the 428CJ. Dahlquist's "Ford's Ultimate Super Cars" article in the November 1967 issue of Hot Rod hit the right hot buttons with Ford enthusiasts; many ripped out the lead page and circled the "Yes" box before firing it off to Henry Ford II, whose address was conveniently included. It was a ride that would change the course of Ford performance history. *[Back when cars needed to be worked on. [link] [comments]. Torque them in halves, with the first time being half the full torque value, then full torque. and then for collectors looking for a cross over o in the southern California traffic reports on radi never teach your own kids how to drive. In the 1950's, Pennsylvania railroad titans decide fundamental electromagnetic braking, or shack abso the Firebird-based Type K concept was built in 197 Did you know that the NBA originated in the tire c in 1949 Buick introduced "VentiPorts" invented by Gurney's All American Racers built a lot of race cars. Shelby's team reached into the 427 parts bin, dropped the '63 low-riser dual-quad setup atop the 428 Police Interceptor, and made their new Mustang a superstar. He used his clout as a top Ford dealer, along with his long-time friendship with Henry Ford II, to convince Ford to take a look at his KR-8 Mustang. In 1968, when it When we build an FE today, we insist on these changes if it's to be warranted. it is most likely a 428 Police Interceptor block and not a 428 Cobra Jet. The length of this pin is critical. :3DSMILE: Sorry, here's the other page. What a good thing product placement can be for fre the first-ever 427 Dana Camaro, a very incredible Ariels are mighty low cars will they make parki in 1928 at Indianapolis, Leon Duray's Miller set a What it's like to be in a rig during a blizzard pi when traffic comes to a stop in front of you ge these would make terrific tool displays for a garage. And if you have a healthy budget, the sky's the limit for displacement, horsepower, and torque. It's a matter of providing a durable and practical performance engine. After the 1965 race for which 50 "production" race engines were built and sold (and Jim Clark won the 1965 Indy 500 race), the Indy Race Group was disbanded and personnel were dispersed to other engine engineering projects. Hume Hartford Suspension was an early player in the automotive business. How do these compare to 429 Hi-performance. Check the intake casting number, the head casting number and if the heads are of the bore and stroke. Also, I have heard that if you pull the freeze plugs and look inside at the outside of the cylinder wall, they used to cast "428" on the outside of one of the cylinders. Although many early Mustang articles suggest that the 428 Cobra Jet was designed by Mr. Tasca, there are in fact more than 30 design differences between the components used by Mr. Tasca, the 428 PI, and the released 428 CJ. Just a few months later, Cobra Jet Mustangs stormed the 1968 Winternationals in Pomona, California, followed by the April 1, 1968, introduction of the 428 Cobra Jet option for the '681/2 Mustang GT and Fairlane. 2) Cast iron PI (Police Interceptor) intake manifold. facility for the production of Sustainable Aviation Fuel. and inexpensively built engine. Total timing is set at 35 degrees BTDC, all in by 2,000 rpm. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) approved sweeping changes today The stock -inch hex ends of the stock oil pump drive are known to shear, so a superior Melling IS-60 driveshaft is substituted. Don't use straight rubber fuel line, as it tends to kink, restrict fuel flow, and lead to erratic operation. Kevin Marti confirms that the records his company has licensed from Ford do not include any 1968 Mustangs equipped with a "Q" engine code. new 429. Standard 429/460 connecting rods have a "C8VE-A" forging number.