Toro, who turns 26 next month, was a key to the deal from Milwaukee's perspective, since he has experience at both second base and . But maybe Im wrong. Maybe Toro took it personal.that all you guys and gals seemed to think he was a nobody. Houston Astros recalled 3B Abraham Toro from Astros Alternate Training Site. He is a third baseman in the MLB. I like what weve done assembling this current team. However, this trade was absolutely horrible and he will no longer have my support. Stay up to date with MLB player news, rumors, updates, analysis, social feeds, and more at FOX Sports. To trade Wilmer back home to Queens. The team deserves an explanation., Players arent the best judges of how to run a franchise whatsoever, Id have more of a problem If my GM lent an ear to them than sitting in his office doing his job behind closed doors. well It must be watchable for most people. If you do not allow these cookies we will not know when you have visited our site, and will not be able to monitor its performance. Im pissed. Seems like they just did their division rivals a favor. Here's the schedule along with matchup notes. . In three games against Houston, Seattle starters allowed 17 earned runs in 13 innings (10.20 ERA), with only Yusei Kikuchi making it past the fourth inning. With the Seattle Kraken clinching a spot in the playoffs, Brandon Gustafson breaks down the numbers that tell the story of the team's season. Toros still young and hasnt gotten a huge opportunity yet in Houston but to think we may have gotten our 3rd baseman of the future for a pitcher on an expiring contract, Id say, not a shabby deal. You keep telling your employer that winning is in the future. They could also flip him or use him in another trade. So, last year Toro was the #3 ranked prospect in Houstons system, per Fangraphs. I agree. I guess its possible Graveman would have been resigned, but in todays market, who knows how much that would cost the Ms with other holes to fill this offseason. High School: Vanier SS (St. Laurent, QC), School: Seminole State College (Seminole, OK), Debut: Win Expectancy, Run Expectancy, and Leverage Index calculations provided by Tom Tango of InsideTheBook.com, and co-author of The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball. He is a third baseman in the MLB. In exchange, the Astros got Rafael Montero, who the Mariners had recently designated for assignment, and star reliever Kendall Graveman, whos been one of the best bullpen arms in baseball this year and earned the win for Seattle in the first game of the series. Online Sports Database is a digital sports platform with the most Was named the Astros Minor League Player of the Year and made his Major League debut with the Astros in August as part of a breakout season that saw him advance from Double A to the Majorsmade 20 starts for the Astros in August and September (all at third base), with the Astros going 14-6 in those gamesbegan the season at Double A Corpus Christi following his first appearance at Major League Spring Training camp was promoted to Triple A Round Rock on Aug. 1was selected to the Major League roster on Aug. 22made his MLB debut in a start at third base on Aug. 22 vs. LAA, going 0x4became the fourth Canadian-born player to make his MLB debut with the Astrosalso RHP Jason Green (2000), RHP Gordi Pladson (1979) and OF Terry Puhl (1977)became the eighth Canadian-born player to appear in a game for Houston, and the first since LHP Erik Bedard in 2013was the first position player to appear in a game for the Astros since OF Terry Puhl (1977-80)recorded his first Major League hit on Aug. 23 vs. LAA as part of a 2x4 gameposted his first-career RBI on Aug. 25 vs. LAAwent 1x2 with three walks and his first-career Major League home run on Aug. 29 vs. TBjoined OF Terry Puhl as the only Canadian-born players in Astros history to hit a home runbecame the youngest Canadian-born player all-time with three walks and a home run in a single game, surpassing Russell Martin, who did so at 25 years of age on April 30, 2008 for the Dodgershit a two-out, two-run homer in the 9th inning off Jays closer RHP Ken Giles on Sept. 1 at TOR, snapping a 0-0 scoreless tie in what became RHP Justin Verlander's third-career no-hitterwas inserted into the starting lineup after Yuli Gurriel was scratched pregame with a left elbow contusion also made the final out of the no-hitter, a 5-3 putoutbecame the fifth Canadian-born player in MLB history to hit two home runs over his first eight MLB gamesalso Danny Klassen (3), Joey Votto, Brett Lawrie and Dave McKayin 114 minor league games between Triple A Round Rock (16g) and Double A Corpus Christi (98g), hit .324 with 31 doubles, 4 triples, 17 homers, 80 RBI and a .938 OPS (.411 OBP/.527 SLG)was a Double A Texas League Midseason and Postseason All-Star after batting .306 with 16 home runs and a .906 OPS (.393 OBP/.513 SLG) in 98 games with the Hookshit .424 in limited action at Triple A (16 games)during his 16 games at Triple A, ranked among the top-three Pacific Coast League hitters in hits (28), batting average and OBP (.506)was named the Texas League Player of the Week for the week of May 6-12hit .381 with two homers and eight RBI in six games during the weekled the Texas League in OPS and OBP while ranking second in batting average and slugging percentagerecorded five hits on Aug. 8 while playing for Triple A Round Rock. Most teams at that point dont have a negative run differential. Same goes to Straw and McCormick, the Astros cannot keep both so trading Toro and Straw/McCormick is painless. Milwaukee Brewers optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Nashville Sounds. Can Toro play CF? Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Monday, May 1, 12:21AM. view 1 MLB Payroll Tracker; view 2 2023 MLB Salary Rankings; view 3 Toronto Blue Jays Payroll Table; view 4 2024 MLB Free Agents; view 5 Los Angeles Dodgers Payroll Table; Spotrac on Twitter. We also have a couple guys on Sewald Steckinrider Swanson and maybe Chargois as closers. Astros always find a way to get great players without trading away their good prospects. Abraham Toro was drafted by the Houston Astros in the 5th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft from Seminole State College (Seminole, OK). Got to look at the big picture. The Mets gave away Paul Sewald, who is apparently the new closer. Incentives have already boosted that base salary by $400K, and the contract overall contains a total of $3MM in reachable incentives. No they didnt lol. Jerry DiPoto views players like chess pieces not human beings. That said, $1.5MM of those are tied up in games finished, and manager Dusty Baker has already indicated that Ryan Pressly is likely to continue as his closer. But Toro looked like he was turning the corner, so you got a decent 3B there with some pop in his bat. They both benefit from this trade, just in different ways and to different degrees. How much longer do you think the Angels will waste Mike Trouts career? Free Agent: 2027, More Abraham Toro Pages at Baseball Reference. I think both teams benefit from this trade, just to different degrees and in different ways: Houston is a contender whose weakness was their bullpen. Especially the Bullpen. Uhm what? Some times, a hitter just needs a change of scenery.. We are just being reactionary because its easy. How much did they pay you under the table to lose?Why would the owners allow this?!! Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. I thought there was no chance. Discover Abraham Toro's Biography, Age, Height, Physical Stats, Dating/Affairs, Family and career updates. That keeps the pressure off the players, manager / coaches, FO staff and yourself. And the Mariners arent giving the Astros Graveman for Aledyms freakin Diaz. Ive seen torohes decent but Im very okay with this trade. December 2, 2022: . Both teams won. I kinda low key dig it for Sea but see what Houstons doing , Toros a quality MLB player with 4 more cheap years left for 2 months of Graveman. Prior to the 2022 campaign, he'd hit .292/.392/.552 (142 OPS+) during the Pandemic Era. Its really very obvious. Graveman is a rental Toro is more of a utility player (so far) but is a switch hitter and controllable for like 4 more years so i can see why hed be desirable. Not sad to see Joe Smith go. This information might be about you, your preferences or your device and is mostly used to make the site work as you expect it to. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. You all fail to see the beauty of DiPotos plan. Typical Mariners type transaction. Servais is OK hes a pretty good manager but Dipoto must GO! Dipoto has said he gets this move has upset the team. OF Sal Frelick reassigned to Minor League camp. The $1.75 million going from the Brewers to the Mariners in the deal represents the difference in 2023 salaries between Winker ($8.25 million) and Wong ($10 million), who are both free agents following next season. Houston Astros optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Astros Alternate Training Site. By Steve Adams | July 27, 2021 at 6:07pm CDT. Would love to have gotten Myles Straw in this trade. Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. Graveman could still collect six more stray games finished to reach his first of three would-be $500K bonuses tied to games finished, but its unlikely he reaches the 30 and 40 games finished needed to unlock the next pair of $500K bonuses. God I can hear the prayer in the background. Theres another move to come. . Toro signed a one-year, $1.25 million contract with the Brewers on Friday to avoid arbitration, Robert Murray of FanSided.com reports. section: | slug: kolten-wong-trade-mariners-send-jesse-winker-abraham-toro-to-brewers | sport: baseball | route: article_single.us | I liked Dipoto until he did this. DiPoto has made some smart trades and good picks/IFA signings. Houston Astros Newsstand Seattle Mariners Transactions Abraham Toro Joe Smith Kendall Graveman Rafael Montero, Wow, dont see this very often, not the division rivals part at least, Wonder what Houston wants with Montero too. Graveman was a scrap heap reliever that they signed for 2/2.75. 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. But after a big trade Tuesday afternoon where players walked across the field to opposite clubhouses, things didnt go the Mariners way as they lost the next two games to drop the series. I believe Jerry thinks he is playing Mlb The Show instead of management in the real world. As an Astros fan, this is a win for everyone. Not what they meant by go and make some playoff push moves Jerry. the contract will likely top out paying him somewhere in the range of $2.65MM based on incentives tied to days on the roster . Does this end Mariners pursuit of Whit Merrifield? Wow. His current contract terms are 1 yr/$1.25M (23). Making History - Became the first player in MLB history to homer for and against a single team on consecutive days when he homered in his first AB for the Mariners on July 27 also homered in previous two games with Houston prior to trade on July 25 vs. TEX and July 26 at SEA. Teoscar was a much more well regarded prospect than Toro. Houston Astros activated 3B Abraham Toro. An updated look at the Seattle Mariners 2023 payroll table, including base pay, bonuses, options, & tax allocations. Scores from any date in Major League history, Minor, Foreign, College, & Black Baseball, Frequently Asked Questions about MLB and Baseball, Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREE. And alienated his own clubhouse. Toro hit a HR for each team on consecutive nights. Toro, meanwhile, started his Mariners career off with a bang, hitting a pinch-hit home run in the ninth inning of the series second game to get Seattle within two runs. Smith is a free agent at seasons end so it doesnt really matter. Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. Hello Seattle - Was acquired along with RHP Joe Smith from the Astros in exchange for right handed pitchers Kendall Graveman and Rafael Montero on July 27. Dipoto has also stated more moves are yet to come. He made his major league debut that night versus the Detroit Tigers, playing third base. I wish teams would stop gifting the Astros great playoff pieces for nothing. Montero was pretty good in a rangers uniform. Positions: Draft: Drafted by the Houston Astros in the 5th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft from Seminole State College (Seminole, OK). Abraham Toro is a Second Baseman and Third Baseman. Photos provided by USA Today. This one was hard to swallow for both sides Id imagine. $1.25 million contract with the Brewers for the 2023 season, avoiding salary arbitration. Wonder what Seattle wants with either of the players they acquired. They are so stingy with moving prospects but always land impact players at the deadline. Its pretty obvious you dont understand baseball or are somewhat delusional yourself. Milwaukee Brewers (minors, 40-man), Born: They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. I think Dipoto has a bigger move in mind, perhaps paving the way for a Kimbrel trade. What they dont need is more lottery tickets. I see some potential with Toro, but no question that short-term, this will help Houston and hurt Seattle. Graveman is generally not a good player, which is why he only got $1.25M. $8 million contract. I guess so Steve but Ive seen toro for awhile and I mean, hes okay but nothing special. While the NBA continues to blow away MLB, NHL, and even the PGA in viewership every year. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work. Hey Steve, its a three game series that concludes with a day game tomorrow. Sense of perspective? This trade doesnt make much sense. He made his major league debut that night versus the Detroit Tigers, . Im not sure Seattle did, although time will tell. Why not? I think its not a bad trade for Toros potential moving forward, But I dont see how this improves the Mariners unless Dipoto moves Toro or Smith to acquire something better. I hate trades in div and think this could bite us this year. Find Abraham Toro-Hernandez total career earnings, contracts & net worth breakdown. Graveman is likely all the more appealing to the luxury-conscious Astros because of his affordable salary. Joe Smith 0.7 bWAR, Please login to leave a reply. Toro isnt upgrading 2nd base or anywhere. Makes no sense, doesnt make either team better, just a trade for trades sake I hate DiPoto. Salaries from players currently in the system. It's a nice little . Graveman was just going to bolt in free agency anyway and you probably got the better 33 innings from him this year before (maybe) fatigue sets in. When I read the news at first I was hot! It's up to the Brewers now to get the most from him -- perhaps as part of a timeshare that sees him platoon with rookie infielder Brice Turang at the keystone. Developing story Kendall Graveman, was secretly infected with COVID 19 by Jerry to get it into the Astros clubhouse. Two dingers in two days in Mariners threads. Abraham Toro had 26 home runs over his career. Toro also is a third basemen (not a second) so when Seager leaves next year, boom. Houston Astros optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Sugar Land Skeeters. He is legit. Rotowire Jan 13, 2023. umm August 1, 2019: 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. For the homestand, Mariners starters posted a 7.44 ERA in 32 2/3 innings in seven starts. Abraham Toro profile page, biographical information, injury history and news Abraham Toro - Milwaukee Brewers - news and analysis, statistics, game logs, depth charts, contracts, injuries Skip to main navigation Riiight because Graveman cant potentially be a key cog in a deep playoff run for the Astros? How big is that? No need to go straight to their dumpster. Now they are going to trade for a cheap reliever with remaining control. (Age 22-245d, Perhaps Dipoto is in need of an intervention to deal with his compulsive shopping or gambling disorder. Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. They arent? Nice job Jerry! Astros made out like bandits by getting a great closer and were able to rid themselves of a prospect with no signs of progress. Toro is seeking his major league debut . Attended Seminole State Junior College in Oklahoma His parents are from Venezuela..they moved to Quebec before he was born Is trilingual, speaking English, French and Spanish. Preller did this for 6 years in San Diego. Mariners won. Im assuming this was 3~4 generations ago so a lot has changed as well with team building since then, I dont think thats the case here, there will be chips pushed by Sea soon . February 9, 2023: Canada activated 3B Abraham Toro. Houston Astros invited non-roster 3B Abraham Toro to spring training. Winker will make more than $8 million next season, meaning the Brewers are gaining some slight savings in this trade. Abraham Toro was born December 20, 1996, in Longueuil, Quebec, Canada. Lots of years left. Cheers. MLB.TV, via Rosenthal, reporting that Turner was taken out for a medical reason.. I think its smart by Dipoto. Hes also seen time at first base. . The Mariners have already shown real results with prospects in the majors. Thanks Jerry! Fry is great Scott gives you ulcers. Dont try to sugarcoat it. So youre giving up 2 months of graveman in a season where, if youre being honest, the teams ceiling is a wild card birth and most likely first round exit. Otherwise, it doesnt help THIS years team. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. But with Bergman due back and Alydms Diaz. The other two relievers ara a part of the transaction but who knows!? Seattle Mariners recalled 3B Abraham Toro from Tacoma Rainiers. Abraham Toro had 170 hits over his career. Trading Places - Became the first player in MLB history to hit a grand slam off a pitcher (Kendall Graveman) for whom he was traded earlier that seasonvia Stats Performhit the slam off Graveman on Aug. 31 at T-Mobile Park, giving the Mariners a 4-0 lead in the 8th inning. I understand it has been a long time but really dipoto needs to do everything to build a good team around kelenic, Julio, Gilbert, hancook, Kirby and the other young guys they have. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. Toro was sent to AAA for opening day because the front office wanted him to play every day, because they saw him as a future big leaguer that still needed some experience and development. With Kyle Seager the Mariners everyday third baseman and the team having multiple options at first in Ty France, Jake Bauers and Luis Torrens, the bulk of Toros innings are likely to come at second base the rest of the way. If Toro does well, the Mariners got their 3rd basemen of the future. I think they could have received more for graveman. January 22, 2019: Houston radio is saying the same exact stuff right now. Money that could be allocated to other more important areas of the roster such as the starting rotation. It never changes., He hasnt come down here, a player said of Dipoto. Just to go on record. Yeah, its a bit if a head scratcher Id have expected a better return for Graveman especially from a division rival. Wong is the second notable position player acquired by the Mariners this offseason. I think Sea is building really really well. Graveman 0.5 bWAR It feels like this is saying the Mariners arent going to try for the wild card this year. I cant believe theyd give him up for so little. Six of those runs came in the first. The players were pissed their veteran closer got traded to a divisional rival for a prospect in the middle of a playoff race while theyre playing a series against them. Hes the oldest reliever in the AL, been awful when he wasnt hurt, he opted out last year,and hasnt gotten any effectiveness back. Seattle acquired Kolten Wong from the Milwaukee Brewers on Friday in a trade for outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro. He sits up in his suite, playing fantasy baseball and rips apart our team without telling us anything., Another player via text said that no one has heard a thing, and later texted: Ive seen a lot of teammates walk out that door. What is the thought process behind this in Seattle? Agead of their game against the St. Louis Cardinals, the Seattle Mariners revealed some important injury updates for three important players. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. The Seattle Mariners have acquired second baseman Kolten Wong from the Milwaukee Brewers in exchange for outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro, the teams announced Friday. Many thanks to him. When you visit any web site, it may store or retrieve information on your browser, mostly in the form of cookies. Good grief, why not when theyre nine games over .500, playing good ball and closing in on a wild card? The narrative will be that Jerry is still rebuilding so hes looking at the long-term picture. 2. a young infielder, controllable for many years, who was as high as #5 in Astros prospect list and was ranked as a Tier 2 Prospect (Above-average chance of being a solid big-leaguer) by Prospects 1500. Nope headed to LA with Scherzer for Ruiz, Lux, and Gray. He's entering the final season of his contract, during which he'll earn $10 million. Boy that would probably be a first. And by the looks of it theyre not done adding arms, they have the firepower to pull off Kimbrel and Scherzer if they wanted. Because we respect your right to privacy, you can choose not to allow some types of cookies. Incentives have already boosted that base salary by $400K, and the contract overall contains a total of $3MM in reachable incentives. Brandon Gustafson details how that can impact the Seahawks. With Seager and a prospect or two they could get another SP. Graveman was a workhorse with Oakland. The Panthers have made a huge trade for the No. Canadian Clique - Was one of three Canadians to appear for the Mariners in 2021 (also: James Paxton and Matt Brash) and one of 15 in franchise history. These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. !Why would you trade arguably the best closer in baseball this year to a division rival team your trying to chase. If they keep Toro, well, that probably spells the end for Seager in Seattle, which would further upset the fans as they would have the remainder of the season to overthink and stress it. Abraham Toro is a Second Baseman and Third Baseman. The Ms will miss Gravemans presence in the pen. !This makes me not wanna watch the rest of the year. The switch-hitting Toro provides the Mariners with a possible long-term option at third base, but hes also logged considerable time at second base another area where the Mariners have been known to be seeking help. 6 de julio de 2018: 3B Abraham Toro asignado a Corpus Christi Hooks de Buies Creek Astros. I like your optimism, and I hope youre right! Hopefully Pedro Baez can be the 7th inning guy and Stanek and Abreu can go to more traditional roles. I think this moves means he is gone before Friday. Trending Pages . Somy guess is another deal is incoming in the Mariners side. Abraham Toro was born on 20 December, 1996 in Longueuil, Canada, is a Canadian baseball player. Exceeded rookie limits during 2020 season, 2023 Contract Status: 2023 Contract Status: Signed thru 2023, 1 yr/$1.25M (23) . SEATTLE -- The Mariners have landed their much-coveted second baseman and filled a left-handed need in their lineup, acquiring Kolten Wong from the Brewers on Friday in exchange for outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro. Smith is washed up. They may have been headed to the playoffs before this move, but now they wont because of this move. LMAO.. Houston Astros traded 3B Abraham Toro, RHP Joe Smith, and to Seattle Mariners for RHP Kendall Graveman and RHP Rafael Montero. That being said I dont think Dipoto knows what hes doing, Do you think the Ms are winning it all this year? I think the best possible challenge trade right now is Joey Bart for Jesus Luzardo. Whats even more troubling is that it hints that Seager is getting replaced cheaply. He made his major league debut that night . One game out of wildcard and trade one of the best closers in the game to division rival that desperately needs one for a prospect that has struggled for 3 straight years at the major league level and a aging reliever that is a shell of his former self. Houston Astros selected the contract of 3B Abraham Toro from Round Rock Express. . But they will see he WILL make the team better this year. Seattle Mariners placed 3B Abraham Toro on the 10-day injured list. pic.twitter.com/6eDxyfURgy. WTF were you thinking? Double Double - Went 3-for-4 with 2 doubles on 8/1 at Texas. They both did well in this trade. 2. a disaster of a pitcher who was never going to pitch for them again. Abraham Toro had a .206 average over his career. While there may be some sting at the loss of Graveman for Mariners fans, the young Toro is certainly making a good first impression. They previously fetched outfielder Teoscar Hernndez from the Toronto Blue Jays as part of a three-player swap that also included reliever Erik Swanson. They arent a better team today than yesterday, but . This information might be about you, your preferences or your device and is mostly used to make the site work as you expect it to.
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