I have American Advantage n have switch to another airline. I also flying through Phoenix and agree with the author. 25 minutes seems extreme for Austin (where all the gates are close to one another), and it seems even more absurd for Phoenix, where you have a huge terminal. Would you adjust any of your time estimates to take into consideration the construction? That alone makes a 60 minute connection necessary. AA can do turnarounds faster than deliver mobility devices to the gate. We don't care if the passengers make the flight! I have a question re. 1. A 25 MINute connection is definitely a miNUTE connection! Travelling with Miles? And if legaly booked you can apply for the EU261 rule and get some nice money. The John F Kennedy Airport is in a constant state of evolution, and a lot has changed over the years (including the elimination and combination of some terminal buildings). Review: AA & BA Greenwich Lounge New York (JFK), American Airlines Bringing Back Alcohol In Economy, Review: American Airlines A321neo First Class (TPA-LAX), Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners, It can easily take 10 minutes to get off a plane, especially if youre seated toward the back, American Airlines advises customers that boarding ends 15 minutes before departure. Which happens to end good for me and 5 other people who I invited as my "friends" to board the flight. Only the domestic portion goes into LGA and the international portion in and out of JFK. I would love your input. Years ago I was coming back from Argentina to Dallas. The exception is Phoenix, which also has a 25-minute MCT, though thats a hub I generally avoid (just due to the geography, given that I live in Florida). Will cab go from one terminal to another? In a word, no. 2. Have a good trip! 4:35 am to 3:25 pm. They know if any others are booked to your itinerary, and whether you have checked luggage that requires consideration. Its free if all youre doing is switching terminals. Good I didn't have that "wedding" that evening. Every airport and airline has different minimum connection time requirements. Delta and Latam are in terminal 4. The main reason why short layovers are usually ok at JFK is due to the fact that there is no designated international terminal. Other one world and partner airlines use the following: T-1: Japan Airlines and Royal Air Maroc T-4: Etihad T-5: Aer Lingus and Hawaiian Airlines T-7: Alaska Airlines T-8: see above I am on a Delta flight LHR-JFK arriving at 2:20. Thank you! The customs and immigration facilities at this airport are extremely large and state of the art, but that doesnt always mean that its fast and efficient. for all kind of connections. It's either listed on your boarding pass or it's not. You may end up with a bulkhead seat behind first/business class. My arrival was :06 minutes late. do we need to pay for the AirTrain. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. If you read your boarding passes, boarding on most carriers ends :10 minutes before the scheduled departure. Ugh. The issue is with mobility . 2 Hours Before Departure. A lot of valuable information wow! All 3 lines stop at all terminals, but the Airline Terminals Train is the fastest way around. I recently booked a ticket with Qatar Airways from the U.S. to Asia on the same flights that I have flown on a few times before and normally had a connection of 3 hours. I did this once going to Los Angeles from Raleigh with only a 30 minute connection time in Atlanta. So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! There are many AA flights from JFK to LAX every day so theyll get you there without any issues no matter what. Keep in mind that just because you can book an itinerary with the minimum connection time doesnt mean that you should. And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. and 3 hours for international. Id imagine that most taxi drivers wouldnt do it unless you promised them a very big tip. Now the problem is that this is the only QR flight of the day during the world cup, and they reduced the equipment to an A320 (they ordinarily have 18x weekly flights, or 2+ a day on 777/787/A350s). Just walk from one plane to the next. It takes at least 10 min to get anywhere on the skytrain. 1B). I fly every other day some weeks and constantly lookup ticket prices. Domestic to international all within terminal 8 in 1.5 hours? Thank you American for making me feel so miserable! Even if you cant get all the way to the front by asking, chances are good that youll be able to move ahead far enough to make a difference. Ive never missed going between high A and high B gates when on time. Very helpful, Scott! The flight with the lowest connection time is usually cheaper by a fair margin. Theyll just put you on the next one (automatically) and you wont have to wait long. Youll make no friends. You can meet them at the arrivals area in T4. Just have to get past the A.B.B. Not very damn likely! I almost got run over by a fellow passenger after arriving in PHX last week. Min Required Check-In/Baggage/Security Time. Then she gives us our new flight which goes to BOS first so completely wrong direction and then we won't arrive in ORD until 6 hours after our original landing time and I miss all the events I had that day. American Airlines | AAdvantage - Minimum Connection Time LGA-JFK - I bought a flight a month ago with a LGA to JFK connection. Apr 28, 2023, 12:18 PM. I'm pretty sure my FF Status with them and an article of me and my business publiced that time in their inflight magazine opened a few doors. And because youll go through US customs and immigration prior to departing YYZ, youll arrive at JFK as if it were a domestic US flight. a group, let's say representing 1/10th of the seats they will delay your connecting flight for that purpose but not if you travel alone. Yes, a terminal change will require the need to go through security again. Naturally we didnt make our connection back to Ohare ! Hi. I have a return flight from Raleigh NC JFK LHR. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. My arrival was :06 minutes late. And when would this occur during a connection? Hi Scott!!! Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. I have also seen 30 min connections on DL in Atlanta. be okay in most cases ? I don't agree with it. I have it, and theres only been one instance in my last few years of travel where the regular security line was faster. Thanks. Have to go running thru to catch connections it is crazy. This is so u reasonable especially if your a senior citizen. I have the highest status on AA and would prefer to fly them for upgrades and such, but we end up flying DL more because it's much easier to fly Home->ATL->Europe and definitely worth the $400 or so more to not just be sitting around or playing logistician to get from LGA to JFK. The listed minimum connection time in AMS for a non-Schengen to Schengen, Delta to KLM flight is 60 minutes ( see info here ). Let the buyer be ware! One of those flaws is the time it takes to move between terminals. Jet blue keeps changing our flight! I live in Austin and fly every week. I would want a minimum of 2 hours for this if it were me. AA'd likely give some BS non-answer about customer feedback and ensuring passengers get to their destination "quickly and safely" yet completely ignoring that if customers miss flights because of short MCTs, they're getting NOWHERE quickly and safely. Anything less than 3 hours would make me nervous, but if everything goes right you could easily do it in far less time than that. We landed on time but with them closing boarding before the 25 minutes connection I was a mess. The anxiety was almost crippling as we landed in Phoenix. Hi Scott The big difference between a tight connection in Austin vs Dallas is Austin has far too few gates and you often are delayed waiting for your gate to free up from the last departing flight. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. The short connection times have just reinforced my reasons for avoiding American! We have 1 bookingnumber. So, we only have 1 h 55. Luckily it's a 6-hour layover so you have plenty of time, but alsoit's a 6-HOUR LAYOVER AND YOU CHANGE AIRPORTS. There's nothing to "believe" about Pre Check. Min Time at Gate Before Departure. Im getting too old for this OJ Simpson dashes. Neither was ideal and I went for the 45 minute option, which ultimately was a mistake given my parents can't speed through airports as quickly as I can, and also that they were completely unfamiliar with Madrid Airport. The airline will most assuredly not give your seat away to a standby passenger in this scenario. Any advantage there? When we tried to request a different option she sends us off without the slightest bit of sympathy to go look for customer service desk which of course was empty. For more information, please contact the Japan Airlines Reservations Center. This is so obnoxious. We departed BRU with 2hrs delay due to a technical issue and once I arrived at LIS they where just starting the boarding for the LIS-GRU and I was allready out of their system to continue my flight. There are always people on the flight connecting to New Orleans and almost every time we are asked to let these passengers off first because of the tight connection. And the same question for the return: I would NEVER book that. I avoid booking any connection where - assuming my flight is on time - I wont be able to get to the gate before boarding starts. Had I been 30 second later it would have been too late. International to domestic will require nearly all of that 1 hour and 25 minutes IMHO since youll have to do the customs/immigration thing. International flights arrive and depart from nearly every terminal, so chances are you wont have to go far to reach your connection. For some people a longer layover works better for them if there's a layover at all. I've been electing for at least 90 minutes in hubs. The agent says well next time don't book flights so close together. The passenger from the previous flight is at the counter and she tells me they gave our seats away. I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. Would you book an itinerary like this? One of my regular flights is LAX to Austin. Delta. This is one of those internal operations things that AA wouldn't actually answer because some Lean Six Sigma'd it, customers be damned, and that's just the way things are. Also if I did miss the connecting flight would AA get me on the next available one as they are who the tickets are booked under via the travel agent? Not too big of a deal if there are other frequencies later on in the day, but if that isn't the case it can be a @Nelson lucky you Fortunately based in MUC with most of my travels being intra-EU to hubs (so usually little need for connecting), but the 2 times I have connected in FRA with less than 1h in between, I have always ended up having issues and missing the connecting flight. However even though the plane did hit the tarmac 20 minutes early it took us all of that just to get to the arrival gate throw in the time for us to get off the plane and our 30 minute connection time dwindled to just 20 minutes with just 5 minutes to make it to our gate before they close the doors. But yes. Not gonna lie thats a connection that would make even my butt pucker a little (lol). I am a student and will have checked in baggage. Try the connection in Chicago. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Customs and immigration lines can get long, so I would want a minimum of 2 and half hours. nwadeicer, thank you for the additional information. Arriving on a commmuter flight and connecting internationally is impossible in less than 1 hour, especially if you are a disabled wheel chair user. Will update the post to reflect that, thanks. Accra, Ghana (ACC) 3-4 Hours Before Departure - Even if not Checking Bags. Been there! I get that planes only make money when theyre flying, and that airlines have heavily banked hubs, and that customers want itineraries that look like they have the shortest possible travel time. The fastest and most efficient way to move between most terminals at the JFK Airport is to use the AirTrain (there are stations located at each terminal). Even as an EXP they were closing the door at T-20. When I called American Airlines , their response was if they scheduled it , you can make it ! So, you could get off at one gate and your connection maybe 3 or 4 gates away or right across the walkway. This problem invariably occurs because of airline instigated changes as I book months in advance. Good luck! We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. Minimum connection times at the John F Kennedy Airport in New York can be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). Im coming in at Terminal 5 and departing international at Terminal 1. Youre welcome Jenny! Also, dont get hung up on the fact that Terminals 3 and 6 are nonexistent. This means that all partner airlines are grouped together in a way that makes sense. Do you think its enough time for such a change or I rather look for a different flight ? I have booked a separate Delta flight to MSY departing at 3:58. It is based upon the amount of time to transfer bags from one plane to another! American Airlines (AA) have given me 90mins to connect at JFK. Yes it can be purchased as a single ticket and it is operated by Delta. Learn how your comment data is processed. Im not sure how I managed it since international arrivals and the departure gate were at opposite ends of the terminal but I did. After all, if you book a really short connection, youre increasing your odds of misconnecting. WILDCARD: if youre traveling alone and are worried about your connection, try to book a seat in the front half of the plane. As I just mentioned, 30 minutes is the bare minimum of time youll need for a domestic to domestic connection. Often, selecting better connection times (1+ hour) result in higher fares (again, at least in my experience), which is annoying. Good luck! Any idea how much time is needed and where to collect the odd size baggage? I think KE lands in T1 and DL is in T4. There were 8 of us making that same connection 3 FC, 5 Y. And if you think that's bad, let me tell you about the time AA kept us on plane on runway for hours then cancelled because I quote they were not permitting overtime for the pilots and then when I called to rebook the moron mistypes and books me for 12/26 instead of 2/26. Hi Cindy yup, with no checked luggage and Global Entry, youll have no issues at all. But I don't think I will ever try that again even though I said I will never do less than a one hour connection. Appreciate the help . MCTs (Minimum Connecting Times) are standardised and agreed data sets which provide the minimum possible connecting time for both a passenger and their luggage to connect between an arriving flight and their departing flight. One has to clear security again with a terminal change regardless of domestic-domestic or domestic-international, correct ? Thank you! If I miss the connecting flight, I will have to wait 25 hours at DOH, and I cannot enter the country for a hotel because of the World Cup. Layover in NY is 1 hour 57 mins . Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. Minimum connection times are the shortest amount of time that airlines can offer as a layover between flights. With over 120,000 industry-standard Minimum Connections Times (MCTs) and airline-specific exceptions to keep track of, we help you ensure your offering is consistent across booking . I fly a lot. We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! This seemed ok to me. Thank you very much. I realize it the next day when checking flight status using flight number and it came up as that route not starting until a month later. As a pretty frequent American flyer, I find that most hubs have a minimum connection time of 40 minutes, and of course thats already pushing it. When I called American Airlines , their response was if they scheduled it , you can make it ! The connection time was 80 minutes. With a little thought and planning, a 25-minute l connection time will be easy and seamless as a brisk walk around the neighborhood. Will that be enough time? It's ridiculous. They are all separate buildings, connected by an inter-terminal train (the AirTrain). The times I had those connections (with checked luggage) I never missed one connection neighter luggage at arrival. - That point about MCT in Frankfurt is SO accurate - I always book at least two hours entering Europe and 90 minutes on a return. Do you think we will have enough time to get off one flight and onto our connecting flight in 30 minutes with JetBlue? Including being in London and American Airlines had no plane to fly us home in. AA seems to do this quite a bit everywhere with RJ's which is kind of interesting since stepping off the jet time is replaced by waiting for your valet bag, unless you were smart enough to check it through and let it be ramp transferred from tail to tail. There are two ways of transferring between terminals: Between all other Terminals: Take the AirTrain. If I do miss a connection, every incursion, they see my status and assist in getting me where I need to go. Itll simply be a matter of walking from one plane to the next (unless you have to change terminals, which in that case, will require going through a security checkpoint). I got wheelchair service and got to the gate at 9:20. Hi Tracey domestic to international in an hour and a half will be super easy (just walk from one plane to the next). Needles to say the pain was unbearable and Hell no! In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. Pay vouchers and hotel for what? Love this! But then when things go even a little bit wrong, you see a half-mile long line at the customer service desks at Americans major hubs. The fastest way to do that is to use the Air Train. MCT has nothing to do with a passenger getting off the plane and making a connection. That percentage drops to maybe 50% on American. If there was a second daily frequency I would risk it, but missing my flight home involves waiting for the next day's flight, or being funneled through DFW. Seriously though, TSA Precheck does save a lot of time. Study the terminal maps (and the location of the AirTrain stations) ahead of time! Air France doesnt fly from JFK to Prague nonstop. An airline may "delay" a flight for 5-10 business class passengers on an international flights; but not so much so for domestic flights. Correctiontakes AT LEAST 15 minutes to get off an Airbus 321 if youre seated near the back! And even if they make the connection, will their bags? Those are also the passengers most likely to be sitting in the back of the airplane. This is because of daylight savings time ending (moving the arrival one hour forward) and because of QR changing my connecting flights timings to 1 hour earlier (presumably because of the world cup and aircraft availability). MINIMUMCONNECTION TIMES. This is almost exactly the same as a domestic to domestic connection, with the only difference being that youll need to be onboard your international flight sooner. It works either way. Thank you for your advice. Unfortunately I don't have always the choice but for sure, in Europe my favorite airport is MUC. Landing from Milan at JFK at 6:55pm; I want to book a flight from JFK to Miami (final destination) thats at 8:30pm.is that cutting it way too close??
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